John Day

And when you stack that up after three or four years, you might have enough to buy a house for yourself.

I just look at what the relative strength of these Australian sides, which we need them to be strong, Mark, if some of these guys were able to do that.

No, not today, but every other week, John.

Stephen Perriffet has got to play more than one game.

There's a lot of ifs around everyone, man.

Well, this blue side is one big if, isn't it?

Apart from beating the Crusaders and playing and blanking them in that second half, tell me another game they've been outstanding, Mark.

New South Wales, Waratahs and Sydney.

They should have lost that, mate.

The first half, the Waratahs should have buried them in that game.

They botched like six or seven tries.

The game should have been 40 points over at halftime.

That's not a great performance.

Well, they did that and it didn't work back in 2002.

No, there was a Fijian winger for the Crusaders who couldn't be picked.

Right.

And so apart from that, the other 14 got picked.

I think that's how it worked under John Mitchell, wasn't it?

I want to finish on Carl Budge.

Wernenbacher?