John Day

And I think Ruben Love has got to actually do more in a game to influence a game under those kind of circumstances.

I was a bit disappointed, to be honest.

And he's played so many odd tests for the Auckland.

Devlin rolls his eyes because he thinks, oh, my God, I'm going to ring reception and get another bottle of wine.

The selection process is going to take longer than I thought.

I'll add the McKenzie thing also.

I think it was against the Brumbies where they were down, they came back and they had that chance at the end and they were trying to force a try at the end when he was in the pocket ready to go and just wouldn't take that kick.

In terms of, again, looking at that game, Chiefs versus Canes, last week and the week before, I think, again, a lot of us were saying, is this the All Blacks blueprint?

Is this the way the All Blacks need to play the Hurricanes way?

Well, the Chiefs shut that down, Mark, and they did it.

I know the wind was ferocious or whatever, but it doesn't matter.

They did it quite simply, didn't they, by just playing a game of absolute combat.

So do we have to rethink that, or is it just thoughts that occur to us as we progress through Super Rugby?

on a week-to-week basis.

We will learn more as the finals evolve.

He's a test player.

He played pretty well at eight on the weekend, though, didn't he?

As far as Cegna goes, look, the big carrot is the Tour de South Africa and the fact we're going to take 45 to 50 players.

He'll be a great dirt tracker there.

Yeah, and so I think that for a lot of these players, I think New Zealand rugby has to use that as well as the incentive and say you can get on that tour and then the world is yours.