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John Deeks

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Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

You have to go through the different many different organizations to actually ask them what's happened.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And that's not an achievable thing.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

It seems absolutely ridiculous that there is no central list whereby you can as a hospital or a user can go and look up to see whether this CE mark is a true mark or a false mark.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

The FDA has changed as well.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

They started in the pandemic by assessing all the tests, but they quickly realized they hadn't got the capacity to do that.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And now they just list serology tests and they require serology tests to carry some warning, which says they haven't been evaluated by the FDA, but they can go to market in the U.S.,

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

with that warning on without any scrutiny at all.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So it has become a wild west of testing.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

There is no doubt that the biomarker companies are not being scrutinized for the evidence that they are providing that these tests actually perform as they say they will.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Well, in that paper, the tests are called Test 1 to Test 9 because the government had contracts with the testing companies which included a confidentiality clause that they would not be named in the report.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Now, that seems close to immorally wrong to me that the world now cannot tell what tests there were in that study.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

It was a well-done study.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

It was paid for out of UK taxpayers' money.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

The only people who know what tests were in that study are the people in the UK government and probably the researchers.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And they're bound by confidentiality not to let the rest of the world know

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

what tests were actually evaluated.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So for our review, which we'll be publishing soon, we're not going to be including that study because we can't say what tests there were.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

In fact, we have no UK data in our review at all, which is not a good position for us to be in.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

We need to know what these tests are.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Frankly, I cannot believe that...