John Donvan

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2,077 appearances 13 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 18 Sep

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Clear story that they tend to tell about genetic influence.
The team on the other side, Paige Harden and Annie Plachette Murphy, they are not arguing that DNA has no influence.
And I think again, we want to make clear that both sides are conceding that this is an interaction between two things.
Nobody's taking an absolute stand for one side or the other, and that's important.
But they do point out that relationships are extremely important in determining
Who people are.
People they're they're not arguing that people come into the world as a blank slate, but that what happens in the home afterwards or in the in the environment in which a child is raised uh happens afterwards, that it's very, very um what they what they see their opponents doing that they question is they feel that their opponents are cherry-picking around uh their data around uh certain factors which would confound
Their results, such as social class.
They also argue that the assertion of the other side that extreme cases are rare in number is not actually true, that the that they're they're counting out too many people to get to the results that they do.
So there's a lot to unpack here.
I want to get just a little bit specific.
This isn't really a question for debate, it's just a question to understand to the side that's arguing for the resolution.
We've been talking in general terms about
aspects of the child of an individual uh that are determined by DNA that folks might not have thought so.
Again, putting it in that framework.
I just want to ask you some of the things you're saying are predictive by DNA, and if you if predictive is the wrong word, correct me on that, but uh at least influence.
Are you saying that um IQ is something that would be predictive through DNA?
I'm gonna go through a short list.
Uh and so rather I'm just looking for yes no on this, sorry to sound like this is a congressional hearing.
But I just I I just want to get it out on the record so I understand.
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