John Donvan

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2,077 appearances 13 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 18 Sep

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Open to Debate · Is America Ready for a Four-Day Work Week? · 4 Sep 2026 podcast

And you also say that this impetus is coming from the employers themselves, that they're doing it because they're finding productivity is up, it saves them money. voice-verified

You say that this whole thing is going to happen. voice-verified

And that it's a game changer. voice-verified

Okay. voice-verified

So, Joanne, you're way more—you would love this to happen, but you're very skeptical that it's going to happen in the States. voice-verified

Again, listening to what you've been saying and some notes I've been taking, you say that a lot of companies may be talking about this, but they're not walking the walk. voice-verified

That especially the big, major companies, the large, large employees, particularly in the tech sector, they want their— voice-verified

their workers in there. voice-verified

They want them in there five days a week. voice-verified

They want them in there for long hours. voice-verified

You're also skeptical that AI, which you say is driving the conversation at the present, is going to deliver the kind of productivity in terms of hours that people need to work and show up at the office. voice-verified

Because there's also a cultural thing going on that we are a culture, a workaholic culture, where the more FaceTime you put in, the better your career turns out, and people don't want to break with that. voice-verified

And that voice-verified

No company really wants to go first in this because then they may be at a competitive disadvantage. voice-verified

And you point out that most of the companies that are experimenting and happy with it are smaller companies. voice-verified

And fundamentally, you think, again, new technologies always promise to give us less work to do. voice-verified

But as with email and other things, we end up having whole new kinds of work. voice-verified

that track us on our way home. voice-verified

So there's a lot to get into there. voice-verified

Let's get started. voice-verified

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