John Donvan

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2,077 appearances 13 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 18 Sep

John Donvan’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 13 in all, peaking in Jul 2026 with 6.

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Open to Debate · Is America Ready for a Four-Day Work Week? · 4 Sep 2026 podcast

And so I'm curious, how did this question of a four-day workweek become front of mind for you, something to be talking about? voice-verified

Okay, thanks very much. voice-verified

And Juliette, you are not just an economist, you're also a sociologist at Boston College. voice-verified

In fact, it's already clear from your opening, you're one of the world's leading researchers on this topic. voice-verified

You've written a bunch of bestsellers, including The Overworked American. voice-verified

and Four Days a Week, The Life-Changing Solution for Reducing Employee Stress, Improving Wellbeing, and Working Smarter. voice-verified

I mentioned that your TED Talk from 2022 has 3 million views as of right now, 3 million. voice-verified

What does that tell you? voice-verified

So you just mentioned AI. voice-verified

Joanne has made the point that new technologies have had this tendency to create more work for us. voice-verified

And in her writing, she has cited the example of email, one that we all get, that email was supposed to make things smoother in the office 30, 20, 30 years ago, and now we're all drowning in emails. voice-verified

What's your response to that phenomenon of the technology that's supposed to be productive, giving us more work to do? voice-verified

either- What do you mean by the demographic trends are taking us in another direction? voice-verified

up. voice-verified

What's your response to that part of the argument, Joanne? voice-verified

So that's an interesting point. voice-verified

It was actually 100 years ago that Henry Ford took his entire operation and went from six days to five days with the same pay. voice-verified

With his argument being, I understand it. voice-verified

I want my workers happy. voice-verified

I don't want people quitting. voice-verified

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