John Ferguson
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131 appearances
7 recordings
3 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard May 2025
John Ferguson’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Charlie, that's the million dollar question because some of the things that people like me have, and it's nothing magical about me, it's the fact that there has been a transition between of trust and a loss of trust, not only within the U.S.
government system and the population of the U.S., but especially between foreign-friendly liaison services and other groups that operate overseas and the CIA at large. And our presence overseas is not robustly and aggressively pursuing human operations. But there are people all over the world that remember their own, the case officers that they met along the way and have reached out.
There are also people reaching out to people like me that are good officers with reputations within the system and because they trust us and they're inside the government now, our government, explaining what they've been asked to do and what is actually going on.
And there is, I believe, very solid intelligence that the Iranians have committed to people inside our system that they intend to ensure that President Trump is not there on the 20th of January. I look at Iran, there are a lot of people dismiss them. You know, they're just foreigners and they say all kinds of blustery things and everything.
Political assassination, the word assassin is a Persian word. They invented political assassination. They invented the car bomb as a political tool. They invented kidnapping and operational use of their people to change policies. They drove us out of Lebanon with car bombs, vehicular mounted IEDs, assassination, they kidnapped the chief of station and murdered him in a most horrific way.
And we left Lebanon back in the Iranian administration. They know how to do this. They assassinated Hariri and one of the most complicated operational things I've ever seen done that required two years of link analysis to unravel what they actually did to vector a truck bomb into an up-armored
Mercedes limo that was in a group of nine identical limos, yet they vectored the truck bomb against Hariri's car at the right time in the right place and killed the president of Lebanon in a massive explosion. But he was alive in the armored car. The armored car was not on its wheels anymore because of the blast. And President Hariri from Lebanon was
suffocated or burned to death or a combination of both because of the fire. The car kept itself intact, but the Iranians understand if you have a level nine limousine, you just need a bigger bomb. It's not to blow up the car, but if the car isn't on its wheels anymore, if it's upside down or on its side, you have essentially achieved your goal. You have frozen your target
on the X. And if you need to, you can come up with another bomb that comes in and goes off again, right next to it. They are determined and they hate President Trump because of what happened with Qasem Soleimani. To think that they're not going to try is just folly. They will try and they will keep trying until they succeed.
They're not going to withdraw the fatwa for the killing of Qasem Soleimani.
I'm not sure that they're concerned, overly concerned about it, because they can absorb an awful lot of punishment if that's what happens. But I'm not convinced, unless we have a different administration in place, that there would be an overwhelming response. There could be so much confusion in the air sown by the fact that you've got all these drones and there's multiple targets.
You've created a narrative that is confusing the public now. What you feed into that narrative, if you have the opportunity after in a post-event scenario, you can feed in more confusion, more facts, more blame. diversify the blame. There's a lot of avenues for how to do a deception program that the U.S. is sensitive, we're sensitized to that stuff.
And you can confuse the hell out of people on what actually happened. And do we want to take the step of bombing a country because we blame Iran. We may not be able to figure out who did it forensically. Yes. But the fact is, if it happens, then we're faced with a long series of how do we transition to an inauguration? What do we do? This is something we've never faced.
Charlie, that's an outstanding question because we have reached the level now where you have an entire generation of young people. My kids are grown, but they're in their 30s. And they said something to me a while ago that said, you know, Dad, we have never seen or experienced the America that you grew up in.
We have only seen turmoil, chaos, lying, corruption, and all kinds of mess come out of Washington. And what President Trump has managed to do by getting elected is He has just swept in an air, a fresh air blast into what is a very dark and horrible place in Washington, D.C., He is looked at, especially by the younger generation, as somebody that may be able to pull this thing around and fix it.
He can fix it. A lot of his conditions for success were set by his victory. But the way he's trying to populate his cabinet is one of the best things you can do. Bringing in people like Pete Hegseth to run the Pentagon. Amaryllis Kennedy to be a high official in the agency. That's a generational shift.
And when you're inside the system and you're working for both of them, for Hegseth and for Amaryllis, when you are between 10 and 15 years when you leave, you are a journeyman level person. For both of them, they know what goes on, they know how to do their jobs, and they know the system that they operate in. They know what's wrong with it, and they know how to fix it.
You don't fix stuff from entrenched bureaucrats who have been around and are steeped and are owned by the corruption system. You fixed major bureaucracies with young people who are not corrupted, and they know how to do the job, and they know how to fix the system. And you don't have to be around for 40 years to figure that out. When you have 10 to 15, from your fifth year
You're an apprentice sort of when you get hired, trained, deployed, and functional. By five years, you've got your first tour under your belt and you've demonstrated that you can do the job. Then you do it for 10 more years and you do it well and you refine the craft. That's the same thing you have in the Pentagon that you have in the CIA.
And that's the kind of thing that President Trump is bringing into his
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