John Gafford

But anyway, in the meantime, we will see you at the next episode.

And now, Escaping the Drift, the show designed to get you from where you are to where you want to be.

I'm John Gafford, and I have a knack for getting extraordinary achievers to drop their secrets to help you on a path to greatness.

So stop drifting along, escape the drift, and it's time to start right now.

back again back again for another episode of like it says in the opening the show that gets you from where you are to where you want to be and if where you want to be is healthy and to live for a really really long time i have a really super interesting guy beaming in

from the sunny slopes of Park City, Utah, into the studio today.

He is somebody that is an inventor.

He is a systems thinker.

He is a health futurist.

We're gonna get into exactly what that is.

He's the founder of NES Health, XPO Health, Energy for Life.

Like I said, he's a bio-energetic expert, an entrepreneur, a speaker, and a filmmaker, and he's here to tell you how to live forever.

Maybe not forever, but for longer than you're planning on living now.

Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program.

This is Harry Massey.

Harry, what's up, man?

You're going to live forever.

We're living forever.

I always like to think about the movie Talladega Nights when Ricky Bobby says, you know, with my high level of income and the advancements of science, there's no reason I can't expect to live to 165, 185 years old.

But it was.