John Gafford
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Exactly.
Like I know who Jerry Springer is.
I don't, I wouldn't trust that dude to tell my story.
I wouldn't trust that dude to be on a mic for him because I know that, that, you know, obviously he's gone now, but you know, the whole format of that show was to exploit you for clicks.
Right.
That was the whole purpose of that.
It's kind of like that.
You know, you look at the, the Dr. Phil thing.
Yeah.
He was original doing it.
And then Dr. Phil takes a lot of heat.
Cause it's like, are you really trying to help people?
Or are you just trying to exploit these problems?
Because, you know, I think originally he probably wanted to help people.
But then you got a producer that's like, Hey, we're going to get canceled.
We don't get ratings.
So it gets a little more extreme, a little more extreme, a little more extreme.
And I think people forget, they lose sight of what they're trying to really do through this medium.
Is it really about helping people?
Is it about building credibility?