John Gafford

So you mentioned that your whole company is run remote, right?

You don't have any brick and mortars except for, except for your actual stuff.

How do you keep culture in your company when everybody's not under the same roof?

Yeah, my scariest moment of the year happened on Saturday night, which is we have our annual Christmas party.

And we got 585 people that work for me.

And I wish that I could say that I knew all of them on a first-name basis, but I don't.

There's just so many of them.

So I literally spend like the three weeks before that party.

We have an internal system on the back end where everybody has their face.

And I would go on every day for like the three weeks beforehand.

and just try to study everybody's face a little bit.

I made a huge faux pas like eight years ago at this party where some guy walked in and he walked in with a girl that I knew.

She didn't work for us, but she was there.

And she walked in and it was late in the party, late, late, late.

So I assumed that she had been downstairs at like the casino,

was talking to one of their people that we knew that was there.

And they said, oh, it's late, come up to this party.

That's why I assumed they were there.

And so I'm talking to her date and I'm like, hey, so, you know, Lara dragged you to this Christmas party.

It's so random, blah, blah, blah.