John Gibbons

But there's such a long way to go.

But you can also, you know, you can also dig a pretty good hole.

I've been part of some Blue Jays teams.

We've dug pretty deep, and it's –

It can be insurmountable at times.

So is that right?

Insurmountable?

Unsurmountable?

What's the word?

Well, I mean, if you look at it, I think it was, what, 15, 17, something in that range below 500 they played last year.

And that's where you want to get back to 500.

And, you know, we got off to a really good start.

And then, you know, we're playing good baseball.

And then we had a tough week, 10-day stretch.

You know, really, it's tough to pinpoint what it is, you know, other than a lot of times we weren't combining the pitching with the offense.

Because I tell you what, our strength is our starting rotation.

We've got some pretty good arms we can throw at you.

But our bullpen has been kind of, you know, we're trying to figure out really who's doing what.

You know, we've got some – they're not necessarily young guys, but they're unproven guys.

They have great arms, but we're trying to figure what the roles are because we have struggled with that.