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John Heilman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
668 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

And so that makes me think that people will eventually kind of blanch at this.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

But then on the other hand, I'm like, I don't know, maybe that's just about me and my priors and people actually don't really care at all.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

We're going to start playing some soft patriotic music behind you as you, as you, as you act nostalgic about that, Jason, make sure to add that.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

I forget who I'm stealing this point from, so I apologize and I'll credit if I can find it in my social media archive.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

But when the discourse was going around for a while about like, is Trump Hitler?

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

Is he Mussolini?

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

Is he like this?

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

Is he like Orban?

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

Somebody observed that Trump is really kind of an Arab oil despot at heart.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

Like, you know, extremely gaudy, gaudy rather, wants to do corrupt deals.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

And whoever made this point, it was a while ago.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

And like, it is just so...

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

on the nose now and obvious as he's like making these deals with the Arab despots.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

And they are really our best allies now besides El Salvador.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

And like just sort of at a spiritual aura level kind of, I do think that's how he sort of sees himself.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

It's funny to think back to the McCain ad making fun of Obama, the most famous person in the world.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

And that's just like literally couldn't be more on the nose for Trump.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

One additional way in which he's like the Middle Eastern autocrats is he's very interested in throwing his political foes into prison over kind of non-existent, fabricated, crazy topics.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

Something that's very popular.

The Bulwark Podcast
John Heilemann: Did Trump Make an Ominous Shift on Iran?

MBS did this very efficiently when he took over in Saudi.