John J. Mearsheimer

And when we talk now about the Israelis,

There are just a lot of people who are not thinking straight these days.

It's really quite remarkable.

What is that?

I agree with you.

What is that?

I don't know.

I mean, it's a... Have you seen anything like it in all the years you've been... No, not at all.

Not at all.

I mean, first of all, in the mainstream media...

During the Cold War, we had a much more vibrant and open-ended debate about foreign policy than we do now.

We have a big debate now, but it's sort of the alternative media platforms, like your show, Judge Napolitano and all these other shows, on one side, and the mainstream media on the other side.

But inside the mainstream media, it's truly amazing the extent to which people parrot this conventional wisdom and prevent voices that get heard on the alternative media from intruding into the mainstream.

Yeah.

And the thing is that most people in the United States, and I believe around the world for sure, understand that what they're hearing from the mainstream media and what they're hearing from their leaders makes no sense.

And this, of course, is why someone like Trump gets elected, right?

Because Trump says things that are counter to the conventional wisdom.

Forget what he actually does when he's in office.

He ran on a platform that there's something fundamentally wrong and the elites are bankrupt and people voted for him.

And of course, people who think that the establishment, whether you're talking about the foreign policymakers, people at think tanks, or in the mainstream media, if you think that they're bankrupt in terms of how they're thinking about world politics, you're correct.