John Kiriakou
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And in the case of one prisoner, Abu Zubaydah, Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad Hussein,
He actually did drown, his heart stopped beating, and he had to be revived by a CIA doctor performing CPR so that he could be tortured more.
I never thought waterboarding was the worst technique.
I thought that there were others that were worse.
Now, the easiest technique was called the attention grasp.
You grab somebody by the shirt and say, answer my questions.
That's not torture.
The second one was a slap on the belly called the belly slap.
It makes a cracking sound.
It's a little bit humiliating.
It leaves a handprint.
It's probably not torture.
The third one was a slap across the face.
That's humiliating.
But again, reasonable people can agree to disagree about whether it's torture.
But then they got
progressively worse.
The next one was called walling, where you roll a towel and put the towel around the prisoner's neck, and then you slam him repeatedly into a plywood wall.
The plywood has a little bit of give, and the towel ensures that the prisoner doesn't get whiplash.
But,