John Kiriakou

When it comes to protecting yourself from the data state, you got to go Eric Rudolph or Unabomber and just own no technology at all.

It's the only way to protect yourself.

Otherwise, you're going to be scooped up in all this.

Now, the odd thing is, according to Ed Snowden, NSA, CIA, other governmental organizations are scooping up all this data and they're just holding it.

Why?

Why are they holding it?

Now, time was really until the immediate post 9-11 period where if the government wanted your information, they had to go to a federal judge and say, we want Theo Vaughn's information and this is the reason we want it.

And the judge had to say, OK, that's a legitimate reason.

I'll sign the warrant.

Now they just write something called a national security letter.

They give it to your provider and they say, give us everything you have on Theo Vaughn.

And they just turn it over or they go to these new data centers and, uh, and just put your name in your information and everything pops up.

They don't even, you don't have any legal protections, right?

They just take whatever they want.

And that's legal now they can do that?

And it's legal now.

How'd that become legal?

In the National Defense Act of 2016.

National Defense Authorization Act of 2016.

Wow.