John Kiriakou

I wonder how long the actual data, how big the- Oh, and just the data center requires more than double the current energy consumption of the entire state of Utah.

Come on.

You have to assume that this is intel related because look at the companies that are involved.

We're talking about Palantir and NVIDIA and Abraxas and all these big companies that either took CIA investments to get started as seed money or are staffed by retired senior CIA officers.

They're not doing it for their health.

So is the CIA now is spying on our own people?

Oh, yeah.

That's what Ed Snowden warned us about.

Yeah.

Without Ed Snowden's revelations, we wouldn't have any idea that NSA and CIA were spying on Americans, which is not just illegal.

It's a part of NSA's charter that it may not spy on Americans.

And this place in Utah, he and Julian Assange told us about Utah.

This new compound in Utah that NSA has built has enough memory, storage space for every phone call, every email, and every text message from every American for the next 500 years.

Wow.

Why?

It's almost impossible now.

I wrote a series of books during COVID for Skyhorse Publishing, the CIA Insider's Guides to Surveillance and Surveillance Detection, Lying and Lie Detection, and Disappearing and Living Off the Grid.

They put them together, and they're republishing them in the next month, I guess, as one volume, CIA Skills Tactics, The Ultimate Guide to CIA Skills, Tactics, and Techniques.

There we go.

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