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John Kiriakou

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3322 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

They're going to go overboard and they're going to kill a prisoner.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

And when that happens, there's going to be a congressional investigation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

Then there's going to be a Justice Department investigation and somebody is going to go to prison.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

Do you want to go to prison?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

I said, no, I don't want to go to prison.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

As it turned out, I was the only person who went to prison.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

But I said, no, I don't want to go to prison.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

I went back downstairs.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

I said, listen, I have a moral and ethical problem with this.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

I think it's illegal and I don't want any part of it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

The funny thing is I had just captured Abu Zubaydah, who we believed was the number three in Al Qaeda.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

And I got passed over for promotion.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

And the reason I got passed over, they said, was because I turned down the training.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

The head of the counterterrorism center said in my promotion panel that I had displayed a shocking lack of commitment to counterterrorism.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

And then the guy who had given me the advice

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

saw that my name wasn't on the promotion list and he promoted me out of cycle.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

So I realized then I was up against something that was gonna be tough.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

And then there was a psychiatrist at the agency whom I had known for years.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

We earned the same men's group, we went to the same church, and he happens to be both a brigadier general in the army and a CIA psychiatrist.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2392 - John Kiriakou

And he said to me one day, buddy, you know they call you the human rights guy behind your back.