John Lee
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348 appearances
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3 series
first heard Nov 2018
last heard 20 Dec
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And when you're a member of Fianna Fáil, you will thank him for staying on the pitch, first of all, in 2011.
When lots of others didn't.
As Danny and I, referring back to this book, I feel a bit silly.
Pell at the Gates.
Well, it's only because I reread it in preparation for this podcast with what's going on with the downfall of the potential coming to the end of a tenure of one leader who inherited leadership from Brian Cowan.
Micheál Martin was, as we describe in the book, the person who went to Brian Cowan in his office and asked him to step down as leader of Fianna Fáil and continue as Taoiseach.
Both men corroborated that.
While
a large portion of the Fianna Fáil section of the Cabinet and the Cabinet in general were preparing to retire and leave and take their pensions because they were entitled to so many of them in those days because you could claim it after the age of 50.
Micheál stayed on the pitch
he did put in an incredible, incredible effort to save that party.
And major moves like backing the Liberal side in social referendums over the coming years allowed that party to move into another space.
But as you two, far higher up the journalistic chain than I ever will attain, top editors-in-chief will tell the listeners, when you're the top man, when you're the CEO, when you're the leader of a political party, all those decisions that you made that were correct are out the window when a major, major decision goes wrong.
And all the...
All the reasons that can be presented by Micheál Martin, that the parliamentary party backed Jim Gavin, that no one else had brought themselves forward, they just don't watch.
If it goes very wrong for you, it goes very wrong for you and there is no way you can get around that.
David Cameron, for instance, the day after Brexit went down,
went south for him.
They lost the vote.
He had made the decision to bring it to a referendum against the advice of George Osborne, for instance.
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