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John Lisle

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

The town's called Pointe Saint-Esprit, I believe.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

But yeah, there were multiple dozens of people who came down with hallucinogenic symptoms.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

One guy stripped naked and started running around the street.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

Multiple people died after this.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

But that was one of the things that led the CIA to become really interested in hallucinogens because if a poisoning from a bakery could cause that much havoc within this one French town...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

how much more damaging would it be if the Soviets did that to a city's water supply?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

And so that kind of leads the CIA.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

That's the justification.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So they start dosing the coffee pots.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

And they're running brothels.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

You know, the guy who actually ran that is a guy named George White, and he was involved in the OSS.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So he was, you know, I mentioned Stanley Lovell and the THC acetate.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

George White was the guy who was hired to do that in the OSS.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

Then Sidney Gottlieb, when he's thinking, I need to do these drug experiments for myself, who am I going to get to do it for me?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

I need someone who has connections to the underworld, who has criminal connections.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

George White was a Bureau of Narcotics officer, and so Gottlieb was going through the OSS files, and it turns out, oh, this guy's already done these experiments.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2419 - John Lisle

So that's how George White eventually gets involved in the CIA stuff.