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John Martinis

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

Now, just to give you an analogy of how it works.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

It's not a perfect analogy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

It's a close analogy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

If you have a normal metal, any metal we have at room temperature, it's like a gas of electrons.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

It's like, you know, gas in the air.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

And then when you get below the superconducting temperature level,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

That's right.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

They're different energies, different states.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

You know, there's some Fermi statistics that go into that, but it's more or less looks like a gas.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

You think of a gas.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

And then when you cool it below a certain temperature, it then coalesces into, let's say, a solid like atoms will.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

And the electrons coalesce into something, a Cooper-Pair BCS condensate, that's the name, where all the electrons are kind of locked together and doing the same thing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

Now, the nice thing about that, it's not like they're frozen in place, but they have a free parameter that allows them, all the currents, all the electrons, to flow in some direction, which is the supercurrent.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

But they're moving together like they're in, like in my analogy, like they're in a solid instead of the gas.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

And because they're moving together, okay, then when you work through all the physics, they are not, you know, they aren't randomly scattering off things.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

They're just moving together.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

And then you get a supercurrent.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

Where, for example, if you made a ring a superconductor, that current would basically flow forever around the ring.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

This is what you saw with the floating magnet.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Nobel Prize in Physics Winner: John Martinis on the State of Quantum

Yeah, and people actually do use big superconducting magnets to store energy.