John Mearsheimer

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2,303 appearances 7 recordings 5 series first heard Nov 2023 last heard 28 May

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There's no real deterrent in effect against the West and the Russians believe they have to establish a deterrent and they want to do that with Conventional weapons or they're talking about doing it with conventional weapons But their argument is if that doesn't work, they'll use nuclear weapons the Russian perspective here is basically that the West doesn't understand that they're dealing with a nuclear armed adversary and
that we live in the nuclear world and that when you begin to threaten the Russian homeland and you begin to kill Russians in large numbers, that you are creating a situation where the Russians are going to have an incentive to strike back and to strike back in serious ways and to try to convince the West that we live in a world where nuclear deterrence should obtain.
You in the West may have forgotten about that,
But we're going to remind you that we live in a world where nuclear weapons may be used.
And we will use nuclear weapons, if necessary, to restore deterrence.
So that's what's going on here.
And it's a very dangerous situation because the West and Zelensky don't seem to care about Russian red lines.
The West and the Ukrainians seem to think that they can just pound away at the Russians and get away with it.
And by the way, just to go back to the Iran case, when you look at the Iran case and you tie that in to North Korea—
you see that North Korea was smart to get nuclear weapons and that Iran should have gotten nuclear weapons because the Israelis and the Americans definitely would not be attacking Iran if it had nuclear weapons that could hit Israel.
And the reason they're doing that is because they think they can get away with it.
They can get a free ride because Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons.
Yeah.
Your point about the parallels between the Iranian case, uh,
And the Russian case, I think, is right on the money.
That's the lesson that the Russians have taken from what the Iranians have done.
Yeah, I agree with everything you said.
And just to sort of reinforce your point, Crystal, you want to remember that Ukraine invaded Mother Russia.
in August of 2024.
You also want to remember that Ukraine, and both of these operations were with assistance from the United States and Britain, attacked one leg of the strategic nuclear triad of Russia.
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