John Micklethwait

So the way in which ASEAN would grow would probably be going broader rather than deeper.

You're not going to end up with a... We have to do both.

When we talked about the region, you know, you said you didn't think there was war coming on or anything like that.

But there is a, there is, do you think in the end, a country like Singapore will have to choose between China and America?

You've managed to avoid that so far.

Another favorite question.

Yes.

It's coming that way.

Journalists are notoriously unoriginal, but the problems don't change.

The choice is arguably getting bigger.

On that subject, you know hot war, but there's a lot of cold war going on.

There's been this issue about state-sponsored cyber attacks, people interfering in the election.

Your party complained about that in the election you won.

You've had cyber attacks.

And you're going to adjust, I think, your foreign interference law further.

Yes.

And I wondered, are there any particular countries you're worried about?

Is it China, Malaysia, Indonesia, or all the above?

Can I ask a bit about... And we are not naive.

Can I ask about Singapore as a financial hub?