John Morgan

I just came from such a conference around Imelda Gurkir's work, and there was a physicist there, and what the science is, at the bottom, you're getting pure relationality, And at the top, with relativity, you have pre-relationality. And then the scientists are driven by this thing that they can't justify scientifically. But somehow the two theories have to be integrated. They have to be one.

I just came from such a conference around Imelda Gurkir's work, and there was a physicist there, and what the science is, at the bottom, you're getting pure relationality, And at the top, with relativity, you have pre-relationality. And then the scientists are driven by this thing that they can't justify scientifically. But somehow the two theories have to be integrated. They have to be one.

And they've been struggling with this for like 50 years. I think part of the problem is they're still bound in a kind of substance metaphysics, even though they're wrestling with more of a neoplatonic theory. understanding of reality. Go ahead.

And they've been struggling with this for like 50 years. I think part of the problem is they're still bound in a kind of substance metaphysics, even though they're wrestling with more of a neoplatonic theory. understanding of reality. Go ahead.

Yeah, well, that's what I wanted to say. I mean, I'm not making any trespass on the doctrine of the incarnation. But what I was trying to say, look, these things are incarnated in us. They are not just things we're referring to out in the world. They're a body. We understand that we live... Like it's almost like what Paul says in Acts. In these we live and move and have our being.

Yeah, well, that's what I wanted to say. I mean, I'm not making any trespass on the doctrine of the incarnation. But what I was trying to say, look, these things are incarnated in us. They are not just things we're referring to out in the world. They're a body. We understand that we live... Like it's almost like what Paul says in Acts. In these we live and move and have our being.

We are participating in them.

We are participating in them.

Again, this is a cutting edge scientific idea. The idea that there's a deep continuity between how life works and how mind works and we can talk about whatever spirit is. This is what people are now talking about. They're taking it seriously. Right.

Again, this is a cutting edge scientific idea. The idea that there's a deep continuity between how life works and how mind works and we can talk about whatever spirit is. This is what people are now talking about. They're taking it seriously. Right.

And they should, because we've hit this wall in our ontology in which science is making a picture of everything except the scientist, the living scientist who does science. That person doesn't fit in that ontology. That's a hole. Right. And we have to invert our epistemology and our ontology so that we can be proper places. We can find a proper home within that again. And I'm trying to

And they should, because we've hit this wall in our ontology in which science is making a picture of everything except the scientist, the living scientist who does science. That person doesn't fit in that ontology. That's a hole. Right. And we have to invert our epistemology and our ontology so that we can be proper places. We can find a proper home within that again. And I'm trying to

As a non-Christian, I'm trying to see how this text can be relevant to that challenge. I'm skeptical, not in the modern sense. I'm skeptical in the ancient sense. Skeptical means inquirer. I'm Socratic. I'm open. I want to learn and hear. There's an opportunity here because of the diversity of voices.

As a non-Christian, I'm trying to see how this text can be relevant to that challenge. I'm skeptical, not in the modern sense. I'm skeptical in the ancient sense. Skeptical means inquirer. I'm Socratic. I'm open. I want to learn and hear. There's an opportunity here because of the diversity of voices.

I have a sense of responsibility as a challenge to speak on behalf of the nones, the N-O-N-E-S's. Many people who are aware, because they come to my work, they're aware that there's something profoundly wrong, there's a meaning crisis going on, but they do not find an open sense of home.

I have a sense of responsibility as a challenge to speak on behalf of the nones, the N-O-N-E-S's. Many people who are aware, because they come to my work, they're aware that there's something profoundly wrong, there's a meaning crisis going on, but they do not find an open sense of home.

Not that anybody's rejecting them, but they just don't see the established institutions of the legacy religions, the axial religions, as viable for them.

Not that anybody's rejecting them, but they just don't see the established institutions of the legacy religions, the axial religions, as viable for them.

Moving away from ritual, I mean, John's engaging in a ritual, baptism. Like what do you mean?

Moving away from ritual, I mean, John's engaging in a ritual, baptism. Like what do you mean?