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John Nutting

πŸ‘€ Speaker
181 total appearances

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Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

He was working with an intensive case manager who knew full well about Maine's PTP statute, could have filed a court order to keep him on his treatment plan, did none of that.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

So now the state of Maine is going to pay about $21 million to keep him lifetime in jail.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

Just last week, in front of the Maine legislature, the head of the Maine Sheriff's Association said we need more funding because we're being forced to keep hundreds of people in our county jails that should be out in the community with supports or in a hospital, and we're just warehousing them in the county jails.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

I would have them, as we do for any other medical condition, I would urge them to speak to the medical professionals in the field, the psychiatrists, psychologists, the nurse practitioners, the Maine Nurses Association.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

all work on a daily basis with individuals suffering from untreated brain disorders.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

And they're the ones, well, a nurse put it to me so eloquently just a month or so.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

She said, this anosognosia lack of awareness.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

People with Alzheimer's and dementia have the same anosognosia.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

And we put them in facilities so that we assure that those people receive the care they do not realize they need.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

And yet, with the schizophrenic with anosognosia, we build a nice mental health facility and say, if you want to come see me, oh, oh, come in, we'll help you.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

And they're never going to come in.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

I don't need to be on a treatment plan.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

You need to be on a treatment plan as they're coming from.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

And so it's the same anosognosia with a schizophrenic or an Alzheimer's.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

And yet we treat them totally different.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

The biggest single thing we could do so quickly, in my opinion, is stop the person that's cycling over and over again and tying up hundreds of beds.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

I heard of a young man in Maine that had 43 hospitalizations before they finally put him on the PTP plan.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

Six years ago, he's had none since.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

And so we're tying up an unbelievable amount of bed space over and over with these folks cycling over and over and over again.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
John Nutting; Treat Brain Disorders Like Any Other Illness

Same with the jail cells.