John Oehser

I mean, I think he's an innovator.

I think he's way ahead.

He's one of the guys setting the pace and determining how offense is going to be played.

I think Trevor's going to ride that wave.

I think they are set at those two positions.

I still think it's got some similarity for sure.

That's a good analogy.

Patience went out the window 15, 20 years ago.

You got that right.

Were you ever around a patient organization, Doug?

You got that right.

But yeah, I think a lot of it is what I talked about with Campanelli earlier.

So much of it is the coaching staff's ability to come in and have the total buy-in and to change the culture.

And every coach tries to do it.

I don't know if there's something where players are connecting to the young coaches.

I think you can overplay that a little bit.

I think the person himself has to be really talented.

And to me, Duff, being around Liam a little bit, I knew in February or March of last year that he was gonna be able to call plays.

You could talk to anybody in the league about that.

He was going to be an X's and O's guy.