John R. Miles

What did they do well?

What did they do poorly?

And what could they improve on next time?

So this stuff really works.

The other thing that both of them do from my experience with deploying with them

is that before we ever went on an operation, we would imagine ourselves performing in that operation and we would do a dry rehearsal before we ever went out in the real world multiple times so we could live through and imagine what we were gonna walk into, what we were gonna enter when we went into the operational domain.

As I was listening to your conversation with Adam Grant, which is a great conversation for those of you who want to tune into another podcast with Dan on it, you talked about something that I learned in the SEAL teams.

I often get this question, what did you learn from your time being in the Navy?

And I talk about this concept of transition points.

We end up thinking about our lives and how we flourish at our peaks.

We often tend to think when we're in the military,

or doing an operation when it comes to a SEAL team, that that's the peak experience.

But what I really learned from experiencing them is that it's the valleys, or what I now call the transition points, where it matters the most.

Because it's in those transition points that you're accumulating your micro choices that eventually determine the flourishing in that moment.

In that interview with Adam Grant, I heard you talking about this and I thought maybe you can comment on it.

So given we're in the middle of the Winter Olympics, I want to go into winter sports next.

And I want to tie back Barry Schwartz into this.

Barry told you about how you need to cultivate your life.

I have been doing a tremendous amount of study now on mattering and connectedness, which are actually two different things.

Connectedness is what a lot of people think of when they think of mattering, and it is a relational aspect.