John R. Miles

And my point here is that Chris used the trust that he had built up with Lucia and that community to guide him.

Because there was a point as he was doing this that Lucia was pretty much blind.

He couldn't see.

And so Chris had to guide him back to the safety lock.

And then once they got in the safety lock, he had to calm him down enough for the 10, 15, 20 minutes while they're in there that he would stay calm.

I express this because they were way...

above our gravity.

And it shows you the magnitude of what successful communities can build.

Where I'm going with this is we talked about mountaintops and alpine skiing, and we've talked about outer space now.

I now want to switch to underneath the ground because that same bond

that Chris Cassidy demonstrated was also found in the Chilean mine rescue from a number of years ago.

And if people haven't studied this, I encourage you to look at this through the lens of Amy Edmondson, the Harvard professor who pioneered psychological safety.

Not sure if you've read it, Dan, but her white paper on this is phenomenal.

I love it.

And I'm sitting here smiling the whole time you're saying this because whether you knew her or not, you're just describing mattering to a precise T. And I loved how you brought up the awakened sense because it reminds me of Lisa Miller's work on the awakened brain, which is someone, if the audience hasn't heard of her, you can go back to an interview I did, search for it in the archives where we discussed that.

But what you were really describing in that cave

was each man's attention, their voice and action were seen and heard and valued.

And it was materially consequential to the group's survival.

So given that, I want to look at the opposite side of this, which is in systems or communities where people feel interchangeable, managed, or unseen.

What does that erosion look like?