John R. Miles

And in St.

Petersburg, if anyone's ever been there, there's this great older hotel called the Vinoy that sits right on the water basin.

And I don't know, five or six years ago, they started to do the longest table here.

It probably goes close to a football field.

It's really long.

And what I have felt experiencing it is that the table doesn't work only because people feel welcome.

I think it works because it makes each person's presence relevant to the experience.

It's like mutual contribution that they're all having.

Did you find that to be the case when you looked at the Parisian example?

So one core difference between the Paris example and the St.

Pete example

I think I like the Paris example better is in the St.

Pete example, it costs a lot of money.

They bring in five or six of the higher end restaurants in town to cater it.

I think the cheapest one you can do is like $75, but it goes all the way up to $200 a person, depending on what experience you want to get.

I like the idea better that if you bring community meals that each one partakes in because it brings more of that contribution to bear.

You mentioned Cleveland, Dan, and I grew up for part of my life as a child in Bay Village, which is not too far from Cleveland.

My family are diehard Michigan fans.

My parents, grandparents, everyone went to the University of Michigan.

So if you're a Michigan fan, you ultimately have gone to Zingerman's because it's a legend in Ann Arbor.