John R. Miles

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Now, back to my conversation with Ollie Raisin and Boris McGuire.

Yeah, so if I had to encapsulate that, it sounds like the three phases are kind of you go through a diagnosis phase, then an experience phase, and then a follow-through phase that you take them through.

I know you've been doing this a couple of years now, but on that follow-through, are there repeat things down the line that you reconnect with leaders on so that some of the things that they're learning don't fade away as time goes on?

Yeah, can you talk a little bit more, Ali, about that interconnectedness?

Because I think this is one of the most striking things about the Samburo lifestyle.

When they see each other's worth in the community, how is that different from what's happening in other parts of the world?

Because I think this is, in many ways, the community that we are losing today.

And one of the biggest causes why so many people feel so detached.

What's different about it?