John R. Miles

when I got home, why I was so freaking exhausted all the time.

And her book kind of showed me that because you're putting on a complete mask, that's different than what your whole biology is.

And I think that's what her books do is they're very introspective.

Yeah.

Helping people see a side of them they don't see.

And same thing with our big feelings.

Yes.

A hundred percent.

Yep.

Well, one of the things that I found when I was going through that process is I

I wasn't very kind to myself at times.

And one of the things that you talk about in the book is our need to becoming a friend to ourself.

What does that actually look like from your perspective beyond just being nice to yourself?

Eric, I didn't want to rehash your whole journey because we went through that in detail in the first episode.

So that's something people can go back and listen to.

But something I did want to talk about is I have two kids.

My older one is about to turn 28 in May, which I'm dumbfounded about.

Well, isn't it crazy how fast life goes?

Well, he is very interested in a career in music, and he also has a degree in business.

But I think a ton of kids this age, yours is probably telling you the same thing, feels really out of whack right now because of all the digital disruptions that are hitting them.