John Reeves

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It's useful for one side or the other. It's useful. He said they were never going to be. And he said that in 1999. And I was I voted for for the border deal. And that and that went down. And and that's I mean, he said that 25 years ago. And that was absolutely true now that that that they had an opportunity to do a comprehensive border bipartisan.
And that went down because Trump, he declared that that that's that's a bad deal after it was negotiated with with the other side.
Well, I'm not I'm not really sure if that's that's what's what's in play. I think it's really like it's important that we have to have an honest conversation.
Undeniably, immigration is changing our nation. I mean, I haven't spent a lot of time in Texas, but it's very clear that immigration has remade Texas. And I think it's generally it's for a good thing. And like my wife, my wife's Brazilian. And her family was undocumented. And she was seven years old when she was brought here. And I'm the big pro-pro-immigration guy that there was.
But it also has to be true that we need a secure border. And we have to work this out because we are pretending that you have millions and millions of people living in the shadow. And they are here. And we have to work together and figure out a way to get forward because they're here. And it seems incredibly a difficult kind of logistics thing.
And I think it's also un-American to round everybody up and who the vast majority of them are just living legal lives and doing a lot of the jobs that other people here would never do. I think we can agree on that.
Well, I'm not aware. I mean, minimum wage really, I think it's most incredibly difficult and violent kind of jobs. Like, you know, like, and that's like, that's, you know, meat. Jobs that a lot of people don't want to work. A lot of those, those are kind of really rough.
Very, you know, rough. Right.
We all were immigrants.
Yeah. And it's like it's again and like the the Haitians, the Haitians, you know, that they're referencing in Ohio and Springfield. I mean, they're not eating dogs. They're not eating pets and those kinds of things. Now, it's reasonable. I mean, I've said the same thing that we have to have a secure border, but it didn't even apply to that situation. That was all a legal situation.
That was enmity, amnesty, excuse me. And that's because Haiti was – it was a terrible situation. Terrible situation. And to me, they were doing those jobs. And Republicans, even the Republican governor was saying like these are good workers and this is not the problem. They aren't eating geese. Right.
And it's just like you can be very pro pro border like I am, or you can be very strict on immigration, but you don't have to demonize or try to turn a group of people in that they're eating your dog.
According to the president, Mario Boatlift, you know, the whole right.
Yeah.
Yeah. And that's why we need a secure border. And there's also in it that all of this is about a truth is that America is a beacon for to the world. Millions of people. The demand to become a citizen here or to participate in our amazing society, the demand outstrips the space. And we're already the very pro-immigration.
We allow more kinds of a path, more than any other nations in the world on that. And people are willing to die and they put themselves at risk just to kind of get here, to be able to live here. So America isn't the problem. America is... America is one of the great hopes in the world. And that's why so many people want to come be a part of that. And that's why it has to have an effective border.
And it's like if we had a real issue here and we wanted to address that. And that's why my former professor said that you're never going to have the kind of a deal because it is useful for both sides to weaponize that and to demonize one side or turn the other thing in there because it's a serious, important issue. It's a political talking point that they're always going to use.
That's what you're saying. Yeah. It's useful. I mean it's weaponized. And that's why you have to have an honest conversation. Right. I think I've always – I was reaching out saying that was referred to HR1 and that was like kind of like the dream kind of immigration law coming out of the house.
And I was like, hey, if that border deal goes down, then it's like, hey, we should continue to have that conversation. Right. It's like they're parts of – They're parts.
Yeah, we have to figure out what's the way to do all that. Well, that's kind of crazy, though, isn't it? But the fact is we have an issue. We have millions of people here, and the vast majority of them are living legal kinds of lives.
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