John Robbins

The more open you are, I think, the more you will get out of it because you are going to have to change.

There's no going around it.

And when things are difficult, the experience of getting through that difficulty will benefit you tenfold.

And every time something feels difficult, when you get through it,

you're like building up this library of experience that then informs the person you are, who is hopefully more tolerant, kinder, more peaceful, more adventurous, more accepting, all of these things.

But you're not gonna get 20 years sober in a day.

You can only ever get one day sober in a day, but they just add up.

What's the situation?

Well...

When I stopped drinking, I realized that music was a huge trigger for me getting very melancholy and very depressed and very gloomy and got me very close to a sort of drinking mindset.

Why?

Because I would drink listening to music on my own quite a lot.

And also a lot of the music I had sought out over my life was very downbeat, very grandiose.

So I had to stop listening to music with lyrics in it for quite a while.

And that wasn't like a sort of a hard and fast rule.

It was just something I noticed.

Like, why do you feel like shit?

Why are you suddenly crying at two in the afternoon in your car?

It's like, oh, because you're listening to that song.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.