John Robins
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2,358 appearances
15 recordings
1 series
first heard May 2026
last heard 23 Jul
John Robins’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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And previous guests on this podcast have spoken about veering from sort of deep sadness to frustration to really sort of violent anger.
What was your experience of, I guess, grief on grief and two very, were they different types of grief?
That's extraordinary that you see it in that way.
And it takes an enormous amount of...
I guess like empathy and strength to come to that place.
Because I think if someone was reading about your story on the BBC News website, you've been in the press quite a lot with the work you've done.
They're probably feeling like angry on your behalf.
All the comments are awful.
Are they really?
So he basically ran out of coping mechanisms is like one way of interpreting what you're saying.
And it was all he had at his disposal to deal with that level of trauma and grief.
And I guess what we were talking about earlier about the aftercare that could have given him
other places to go that could have given him other tools in his toolkit that would have protected him.
And you talked about the difficulty in explaining this to Holly and Isaac, especially at that age.
If you were writing a pamphlet on talking to a two or three year old or a four year old about a sudden death, how would you advise yourself or how would you advise someone in a similar position?
I remember a previous guest on this show, Simon Thomas, who lost his wife, saying how his child's reaction, his child's grief was very helpful to him because his son would become very upset, ask questions, be very distressed, and then be playing all of a sudden, or wanting to go and jump in a puddle.
And they're so in the present moment.
Did you find things like that helpful to you to pull you out of the sort of headspace you were in?
And obviously you talked about the people around you, I guess sort of family and close friends, are also going through grief in this emergency kind of nightmare scenario that no one could have imagined.
How did that develop over time?
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