John Siracusa

Porsche's, maybe not in the first-gen Taycan, but in the second-gen one.

I mean, they're aimed for something different.

The problem with the current BMWs that people have complaints about that Marco obviously doesn't care about is that BMW is supposed to be the ultimate driving machine, and they...

When people think of that, they think of like the current gen Porsche Taycan was like, oh, this is a driver's car or whatever, whereas BMW is merely a really, really good EV sedan, which is nothing to sneeze at.

But for the people who really love like the E46 M3, they're like, oh, that magic has gone out of BMW and it's nowhere to be found except for maybe in Porsches.

It's a good car.

It's an especially good EV.

Because that's the tricky bit of trying to figure out how do you make an EV sporty.

We'll see what Porsche does in this area.

But everyone who has tried has...

had difficulty even porsche has had some difficulty getting that formula because evs are heavy sports cars aren't supposed to be heavy how do you make it handle well getting a fast and straight line is not the problem it's just like how does it feel to go does it feel like your golf going around a mountain road like none of these evs will because they weigh a bazillion pounds they're never going to feel like your golf they're never going to be the size of your golf i don't know man direction the taikon felt oh

really freaking good in the oh no i'm not saying it's bad but like this one's saying porsche's porsche's steering the way that stuff they they have done the best of anybody of making a sporty ev according to all the reviews i've seen to where it feels like just a sporty good car but there's no disguising the weight it's still there like the part where it would show up is if you were on a road where it's so windy that you can't actually go that fast and then having your little nimble golf would feel better than having this big weighty thing but they do a good job of it but like

The BMW is much more practical for your life.

Uh, and I think it also will be more drama free because if you do ever need to get anything done with it, it will cost you slightly less money.

Uh, and every part of this car costs less than every part of the Porsche, the wheels, the tires, the headlights, the battery, the cap on the filler for the windshield washer fluid, like everything, everything will cost less than the BMW and the BMW will in turn be twice as much as it is on a Hyundai.

So that's, that's the shape of the world.

You should test drive a second gen one.

You're not going to buy one, but they don't know that.

Test drive a second gen one.

Do you know what year that began?