John Siracusa

So we'll see.

Maybe there'll be another weird joint statement sometime around the next WWDC to say, oh, and Apple's going to be using Google's private cloud computer.

Maybe they just won't say anything and they'll rebrand it.

I think Marco was alluding to that last episode, like maybe they'll just keep saying private cloud computer.

And when you, the little asterisk will say either in Apple's data centers using our thing or in Google's data centers using their thing, which is basically the same thing.

I think they will talk about it because they've been advertising it like crazy.

They're definitely going to be using it, and Google's got the same thing.

So why would they ever memory hold it?

But I do think... Like, it's the same thing.

It's just, like, they're not running it.

Google is.

But it's the same idea that even Google doesn't have access to it and that you can prove that you're running on the hardware that they say you're running on.

I think they'll just rebrand it, but we'll see.

I wonder if Apple spent more money and time on private cloud compute or the supposed server chips that they made that are based on the M5.

Because we know they were using the M2 Ultras before that, but the rumor is that they actually made a chip for their own servers that is not a chip that will go into any other devices.

And if they just end up entirely on Google's data centers in the next year or two, boy, that was a lot of money for those server chips that really went nowhere.

But they can just join the Mac Pro with...

Wasn't Cloudflare involved in private relay?

Yeah, I think they did do something.

Didn't they do like the private IP thing?