John Siracusa

I launched the Hulu app. I launched the Netflix app. The only reason I personally go to the little black and white TV thing, the Apple TV thing, is to watch Severance. That's how I prefer it. And that interface isn't great, but it actually is a uniform interface. It just requires you to know what services everything's on, which I understand is a weird thing or whatever, but...

I launched the Hulu app. I launched the Netflix app. The only reason I personally go to the little black and white TV thing, the Apple TV thing, is to watch Severance. That's how I prefer it. And that interface isn't great, but it actually is a uniform interface. It just requires you to know what services everything's on, which I understand is a weird thing or whatever, but...

I don't think this is as cut and dried as Joe seems to think it is. They deeply regret making their product better for its customers. They made their product better for some customers, potentially at the cost of giving more control to Apple, which at this point I'm not inclined to be in favor of.

I don't think this is as cut and dried as Joe seems to think it is. They deeply regret making their product better for its customers. They made their product better for some customers, potentially at the cost of giving more control to Apple, which at this point I'm not inclined to be in favor of.

Most people don't have an Apple TV box. That's the reality. They have a television that has an Apple TV app on it, but I think they launch it to watch Ted Lasso and Severance. I think that's how it works. Yeah, you very well could be right. Except for in our little circle where everybody has an Apple TV puck and everybody actually uses that interface.

Most people don't have an Apple TV box. That's the reality. They have a television that has an Apple TV app on it, but I think they launch it to watch Ted Lasso and Severance. I think that's how it works. Yeah, you very well could be right. Except for in our little circle where everybody has an Apple TV puck and everybody actually uses that interface.

I feel like the vast, vast majority of people who watch streaming don't subscribe to every streaming service in the world like I do.

I feel like the vast, vast majority of people who watch streaming don't subscribe to every streaming service in the world like I do.

uh don't have an apple tv puck because that is just a high-end weird apple nerd thing do have apple tv on their television because it comes built into all their televisions which kind of gets me to the point of the earlier story about apple tv being available for android like apple tv seems to be on board with the whole idea of we need to be everywhere we need to be in every tv and like there should be no reason that you can't watch ted lasso which is why i was so surprised to see that you couldn't watch an android phone until recently right

uh don't have an apple tv puck because that is just a high-end weird apple nerd thing do have apple tv on their television because it comes built into all their televisions which kind of gets me to the point of the earlier story about apple tv being available for android like apple tv seems to be on board with the whole idea of we need to be everywhere we need to be in every tv and like there should be no reason that you can't watch ted lasso which is why i was so surprised to see that you couldn't watch an android phone until recently right

So they're all signed up to that type of thing. But I feel like that is the actual world that most people live in, that the Apple TV icon means Severance and Ted Lasso, and that so few people have the Apple TV remote with that button, with that default, with all that stuff. It's only in our little circle. And within our little circle of people who like that interface, I feel for them.

So they're all signed up to that type of thing. But I feel like that is the actual world that most people live in, that the Apple TV icon means Severance and Ted Lasso, and that so few people have the Apple TV remote with that button, with that default, with all that stuff. It's only in our little circle. And within our little circle of people who like that interface, I feel for them.

I understand you're one service away from uniformity, right? And you like the interface. Like, I get it. But there is a... That comes with baggage, and the baggage is, do you want Apple to give Apple more top-level control over streaming stuff? I would be more inclined to give them the control if I felt like their interface was tons better than everybody else, right?

I understand you're one service away from uniformity, right? And you like the interface. Like, I get it. But there is a... That comes with baggage, and the baggage is, do you want Apple to give Apple more top-level control over streaming stuff? I would be more inclined to give them the control if I felt like their interface was tons better than everybody else, right?

But I don't like the interface, and I don't think they need more things to have control over.

But I don't like the interface, and I don't think they need more things to have control over.

No, as I'm saying, in our circle, some people really do like that interface.

No, as I'm saying, in our circle, some people really do like that interface.

Well, I mean, they are, but Netflix just doesn't sell subscriptions through Netflix. You can't sign up to Netflix through the Apple TV simply because Netflix does not want to give Apple cut anymore.

Well, I mean, they are, but Netflix just doesn't sell subscriptions through Netflix. You can't sign up to Netflix through the Apple TV simply because Netflix does not want to give Apple cut anymore.