John Siracusa

What do you think of that?

Trump will still think he's CEO, so it's fine.

He'll still be Tim Apple to Trump for the, for forever.

So it's like the fact that he's no longer CEO is immaterial because Trump won't know or care about that.

We will have an actual after show on a cheerier topic, but it's hard not to talk about this like this.

US citizens being murdered by the government and then the government refusing to even have an investigation have an independent investigation of that and smearing the victims saying they're just terrible things are happening here and it's not a good situation and it's affecting everybody even if you're not where this is happening because it could happen to you and apparently there's no recourse if it does and so we're all feeling kind of crappy about it and the Tim Cook Melania thing like I'm sure he's loving this because it's like

you know, how long has this movie premiere thing been, uh, been scheduled?

And then like the government's got to murder people just like exactly around then.

Not that it matters.

It's bad either way, but like it looks even worse.

Uh, it's part, it's, you know, Tim Cook strategy about this has not changed and it continues to be a terrible strategy and continues to make him and Apple look terrible.

And you know, this, this story from the intercept of an Apple employees being cranky about it.

Like,

You know, it's not just people outside Apple that can't handle this.

People inside Apple feel that way, too, which is another reason that the sooner Tim Cook can leave, the better chance the next CEO has to, you know, keep these employees from leaving the company.

Right.

You don't want your employees being this angry at your CEO because they'll leave and you need them because they do the work.

Got it.

Make sure you don't say anything to make Trump angry.

No, but I have a much cheerier actual tech-related after show that we should move on to.