John

But like, what are you looking for?

Literally, it's not enough hours in a day.

It's impossible.

But what are you looking for that someone else who's good at interviewing and hiring people?

What's the je ne sais quoi?

Right.

But in the early days, what was it that you were looking for that couldn't be delegated in those interviews?

I feel like,

Part of your method is that there was this meme in the media a few years back about Tesla being a revolving door of executive talent.

Whereas actually, I think when you look at it, Tesla's had a very consistent and internally promoted executive bench over the past few years.

And then at SpaceX, you have all these folks like Marc Giancosa and Steve Davis and- Steve Davis runs a boarding company.

Yeah, yeah.

But Bill Riley and folks like that.

And it feels like part of has worked well is having very capable technical deputies.

What do all of those people have in common?

Yeah, you have a group of people.

So how do you prevent that?

How do you prevent the pixie dust effect where everyone's trying to coach all your people?

Maybe being in Austin helps then.

And others have jobs.