Johnny Diamond

People know who he is in a way that they don't know the names of other former presidents. How is it that he made his name in Brazilian politics?

People know who he is in a way that they don't know the names of other former presidents. How is it that he made his name in Brazilian politics?

Well, that's right.

Well, that's right.

You draw the parallel with Donald Trump with those assassination attempts, but there are political parallels and parallels between the sort of electoral machines that they ran as well, aren't there?

You draw the parallel with Donald Trump with those assassination attempts, but there are political parallels and parallels between the sort of electoral machines that they ran as well, aren't there?

And he is, for want of a better phrase, a sort of a man's man, isn't he? He projects a kind of meat-eating macho thing, which doesn't leave much space for doubt about how he wants to live his life and how he thinks other people should live theirs.

And he is, for want of a better phrase, a sort of a man's man, isn't he? He projects a kind of meat-eating macho thing, which doesn't leave much space for doubt about how he wants to live his life and how he thinks other people should live theirs.

So he overturns, you say, four terms of victories from the left when he wins the presidency in 2018. And there's a sense, I think, at that point, that he's, I mean, pretty much unstoppable, but that fades away pretty quickly.

So he overturns, you say, four terms of victories from the left when he wins the presidency in 2018. And there's a sense, I think, at that point, that he's, I mean, pretty much unstoppable, but that fades away pretty quickly.

And that was reflected in the 2022 presidential election, which, though he lost, it was more fingernail loss than landslide, wasn't it?

And that was reflected in the 2022 presidential election, which, though he lost, it was more fingernail loss than landslide, wasn't it?

Did Jair Bolsonaro go to the inauguration ceremony where Lula was inaugurated, where he became president?

Did Jair Bolsonaro go to the inauguration ceremony where Lula was inaugurated, where he became president?

So we've got parallels between A plenty. An election that Bolsonaro refuses to concede in the same way, of course, that Donald Trump refused to concede the 2020 election. You've got the supporters storming government buildings. Again, the parallel with what happened in 2021 in the US. But there is a difference, isn't there? Because Jair Bolsonaro had comments to say earlier.

So we've got parallels between A plenty. An election that Bolsonaro refuses to concede in the same way, of course, that Donald Trump refused to concede the 2020 election. You've got the supporters storming government buildings. Again, the parallel with what happened in 2021 in the US. But there is a difference, isn't there? Because Jair Bolsonaro had comments to say earlier.

about what happened in the capital, Brasilia, didn't he? He condemned the attack. And he said he had no responsibility for it.

about what happened in the capital, Brasilia, didn't he? He condemned the attack. And he said he had no responsibility for it.

Another difference, of course, is the kind of democracy that there is in the two countries. I mean, Brazil's democracy is a lot younger than America's democracy, isn't it? Its democracy, you could well argue, is a lot more fragile.

Another difference, of course, is the kind of democracy that there is in the two countries. I mean, Brazil's democracy is a lot younger than America's democracy, isn't it? Its democracy, you could well argue, is a lot more fragile.