Johnny Diamond

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Here's my colleague, Jonny Diamond.

Here's my colleague, Jonny Diamond.

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I should add, this is quite personal for you, isn't it? You've had a passion for orchids for many a moon.

I should add, this is quite personal for you, isn't it? You've had a passion for orchids for many a moon.

You clearly admire one side of the man, his restless success, his engineering brilliance, the way he has driven his projects through. And you say, you know, Europe could do with some of that fire. On the other hand, from what I know of you... His politics are a long way away from yours.

You clearly admire one side of the man, his restless success, his engineering brilliance, the way he has driven his projects through. And you say, you know, Europe could do with some of that fire. On the other hand, from what I know of you... His politics are a long way away from yours.

How do you bring those two together, the politics you really don't like at all and the success that you so admire?

How do you bring those two together, the politics you really don't like at all and the success that you so admire?

Does it feel to you that it is taking less time, that the pace of innovation is picking up, or is it impossible to tell?

Does it feel to you that it is taking less time, that the pace of innovation is picking up, or is it impossible to tell?

And is it your belief or faith that the new drugs about which people are concerned over cost will relatively swiftly bring down associated costs of all these conditions and therefore pay for themselves? Or do you think there's going to be a very difficult balancing act in the years to come?

And is it your belief or faith that the new drugs about which people are concerned over cost will relatively swiftly bring down associated costs of all these conditions and therefore pay for themselves? Or do you think there's going to be a very difficult balancing act in the years to come?