Johnny Dunleavy

Oh, like very much so, I think 100%.

And obviously then in terms of like his coaching and his training sessions and stuff, you know, they were always very organised.

John Cotter as well, helping him, who was brilliant, you know, brilliant with us.

And you've seen what John has gone on to achieve like now with the aerial underage teams and stuff.

I'm not even slightly surprised.

But even going back then to your sort of mentality question, he created like a...

I wouldn't even say like a siege mentality, but almost that, you know, there's too much, and I've actually heard it and I've said it since, that football has become very, very nice.

Very nice.

Everyone's friends, shaking hands.

There's no real, like when's the last game that you watched that was really better, that was tough, that was difficult, that was a bad tackle, it just doesn't really happen now.

And I suppose that was something that he was very keen to stress, was that, look,

You can talk to these lads whenever you want.

There's no problem outside of business hour.

But when we're playing on a Friday night, there's no room for us being close to these.

We have to go out and beat them.

We're effectively going to war with them and that's it.

And he would send you out on the pitch so motivated, so ready to go and make sure following on from that result speak for themselves.

And I have to say,

No, he would do his own talk, Steve-O, without a doubt.

He would have you going out on the pitch.