Jojo Moyes

I don't know, trucking, I guess.

How did you meet Charles?

At work, yeah.

I was his boss, strictly speaking, because I became news editor in the late 1990s.

And he was the technology correspondent, or science and technology.

And I just thought, oh, he's a good person.

He's really smart.

There was a huge round of redundancies going on

So it felt like every three months we'd be in the pub saying goodbye to a bunch of people.

And then we kind of built our relationship from there.

Being drunk and saying goodbye to people, which was kind of how most people in the 90s started their relationships.

And everything changed, you know, as you know.

It is a...

Even if it's done amicably, which mine was, it is such a dislocating thing to live through because it's a shift of your identity.

Totally.

And there is something to do with walking into a room and people knowing, even if he's not there, that you are a wife or a missus or you are a partner to somebody.

And then to go in by yourself.

is somehow really hard.

And there's some people who find it very difficult that you've done this.

And so I was sort of quite shocked by some people's reactions.