Jolly Good Ginger

If we start capitulating to the idea that you can drag people out without due process simply because I tell you that they're domestic terrorists or violent criminals, then we have lost our way on moral and ethical binding.

Number two.

who says, if you're here illegally, you're never off the table.

We have a process in place for this.

We have a process in place that if somebody is here, quote unquote, illegally, it's a civil misdemeanor.

It goes before a judge.

You have to prove their presence here being illegal.

And then there's a determination made.

Do we deport them or do we give them a pathway to citizenship?

Pathway to citizenship is literally an option that's on the table once you get your due process.

So to say that

We should send masked men in to snatch you out of your workplace or the courthouse or the school pickup line because you're quote-unquote here illegally is just asinine.

Because the third point I want to make here, Don, is that the reason that they are doing this is this make-believe fictitious idea that there's an illegal alien takeover of America.

There's this invasion.

That's what Donald Trump sold when he was running for president in 2024.

And so what Tom Holman is saying is, if the message we send is you can come here to Google and still have a chance to stay here, then we don't solve the problem.

Well, first, we need to agree that there's a problem, and I don't agree.

I don't agree that there's a problem.

I don't agree that people coming here illegally is increasing the crime rate because there's no evidence to suggest that.

I don't agree that people coming here illegally is causing more murders or more drugs or all the things they say.