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Jon Colgan

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
124 total appearances

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SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

100%.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

Yeah, the only exception to that is, especially early on when we were figuring out what our model was going to be, we would occasionally issue refunds if somebody said, okay, that's not what I thought I was getting.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

So we would improve our messaging and give those refunds.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

But when a customer was on board, we've never actually lost a case.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

I would say the highest density of hatred for a carrier would be Sprint.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

Well, so more people hate Verizon, but Verizon has a larger customer base.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

Yeah, fewer Sprint customers, but more of them hate Sprint.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

So it used to be the case back in the day, when I say back in the day, precisely pre-2011.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

A lot of times, if you're dealing with a big consumer service company like Verizon, chances are there are potentially thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of pissed off Verizon customers for the exact same reason as you.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

And so prior to 2011, it was possible to band together, form a class action lawsuit, and use

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

a state consumer protection law to invalidate parts of the contract, if not all of it.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

In 2011, the Supreme Court of the United States basically issued a ruling that said the Federal Arbitration Act preempts state law, and so it all but shut down the efficacy of class action lawsuits in the case of things like cell phone contracts.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

So to answer your question, yeah, there are probably lots of people

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

wanting to sue Verizon for the exact same reason, but the chances that that's going to happen as a class are slim to none.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

Well, that's, that's actually, that's actually where we come in.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

So imagine, imagine this is the scenario I like to illustrate.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

So imagine Verizon, you know, they open up the curtain to their home one night and they look out and there's, there's one guy standing there with a pitchfork holding a torch and he looks pretty pissed off and that's kind of scary.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

And that's sort of like dealing with one attorney for an entire class of, say, 100,000 people.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

The alternative would be he opens the curtain and there's like 100,000 pissed off people holding pitchforks and torches.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
He Sue's Cell Phone Companies that Pray on You with Jon Colgan of Cellbreaker

That's way scarier.