Jon Greenberg

Well, that's what I'm saying.

Like, yes, you need to take that step back for a couple of seasons.

They got Chet Holmgren out of it.

That was their highest pick out of it.

They never got a one.

But what they were trying to say is, you know, they didn't they didn't like in those seasons, they were still like competitively bad.

Right.

Like they played hard.

I remember people were looking at them being like, OK, these guys aren't.

I think the problem when we talk about tanking and rebuilding and I'm guilty of this as anyone is we don't differentiate between.

Utah pulling guys in the fourth quarter

For no reason, right?

Or, like, you know, I know people are arguing about the Sacramento thing, but Sacramento actually tried to win, so we can't, like, criticize them too bad.

They're just really bad at it.

Yes.

So there's some teams that are bad.

There's some teams that are, like, egregiously trying to lose, like, actually tanking games.

And then there's teams that are just like, hey, we're going to take a step back.

We're trading guys for draft picks, and then we're going to make a quick transition.

The Bulls should be willing to take that two-year step.