Jon Gustin
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And that helped my marriage and it just helped everything.
You're not special.
You're not exempt.
I feel like ego is like the downfall of everything.
Yes.
Like it's why people are workaholics.
It's why people aren't present with their families.
It's why marriages fail.
Like it's a big part of it because you're not paying attention to what matters, right?
And it does you no favors at all.
So ego was huge.
And then just also that inner peace, like, and through the chaos.
So that's the hardest part, right?
Stoicism is the hardest when your kids are both screaming, you're trying to cook dinner, you're burning dinner, and it's just absolute chaos.
And you're trying not to lose hope.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It will help during that time.
But then what are the repercussions later?
Right.