Jon Lovett
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And they're like, no, thank you, sir.
No, thank you.
You started this war.
We have our own domestic politics.
Also, we don't want to put our people in harm's way for a war we didn't start.
You started this war with Israel.
You can fight it to the end.
And that's that.
Then he says, oh, we don't need anybody.
Meanwhile, in that interim, the goals go from regime change to preventing Iran from projecting power in the region.
Then it becomes basically the Rubio version, which is destroy the Navy, destroy their capacity to make missiles.
Nuclear doesn't really come up.
Now Rubio is on the tarmac at the end of last week saying, after this war is over, we're going to have a real problem in the Strait of Hormuz.
You have Trump then saying kind of on the plane, you know, there's actually much more reasonable people in charge of Iran now and we can really work with these people.
And then you have โ and Rubio saying that the Strait of Hormuz is going to be a problem and what Iran is planning to do after the conflict is unacceptable.
And Trump said, I'm not going to tell you who they are because they might get killed by their people or they might get killed by us, which I assume includes Benjamin Netanyahu.
So tough negotiating chair for the Iranians.
But he's clearly like kind of internalized.