Jon Lovett

And same thing with Alaska, right?

Like, we're close in that state.

Yeah.

I was like the short term.

We have to do it.

Texas is the not even long term, medium term.

We have to do it.

Also, she won.

She lost Florida by six points.

And I know like I just went through all of those margins like Kamala Harris lost Florida by six points.

And the fact that we just like now don't run any attention to it is probably not really doable for the long term.

So something to think about.

So we talked about 2026, one piece of 2028 news we do want to touch on before we get to Tommy's interview with Jason Zengerle.

Josh Shapiro's got a new book coming out this week and the newsiest parts are starting to leak.

They include the news that Shapiro did explore launching a presidential bid right after Joe Biden dropped out, but it was quickly shut down by his wife.

I guess she was in a Canadian.

She said, I'm in a Canadian Walmart right now.

I don't think we're ready.

It's funny.

There's also news that Trump cautioned him against running for president, given how dangerous the office is.