Jon Lovett

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Pod Save America · Trump Works the FIFA Refs · 7 Jul 2026 podcast

And then I would imagine they're looking at us replacing NASA with like Elon Musk and kind of worried that their ability to launch stuff into space going forward runs through that guy.

Well, what's so funny about this is basically NATO exists to deter a Russian invasion.

But Trump sort of doesn't seem to care about Russia invading other countries.

So why are we spending all this time browbeating European countries

to increase their defense spending to 5% if he fundamentally doesn't really care about the existence of the organization?

That's like the internal incoherence of this whole thing.

It's just like, he feels like we're getting ripped off and he likes to yell at them and that's become his shtick.

Yeah.

And if you're the UK, I mean, like you have this demand from Trump to increase defense spending.

There clearly is a need for them to improve, modernize and beef up their military.

But they're also like their economy has been bumping along kind of stagnant for a decade.

So they have all these pressing economic domestic concerns, too.

And you just get pulled between the two.

And then, you know, Mark Trump just decides to bully you every once in a while.

And like Mark Carney gave a great speech in Davos talking about this sort of

post-America world.

I think the challenge is like, okay, in practice, can he really cobble together this alliance of middle powers to really push back on the U.S.

and become another power center?

It just remains to be seen.

Well, and that's sort of the rub in a lot of this is like when Trump is demanding they spend 5% of GDP on defense spending, most of that money is going to get shoveled overseas to US defense contractors, to Raytheon and stuff.

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