Jon Lovett

I know.

It's so exhausting.

And I just, I don't know.

The thing that I thought was interesting about this one, and this is similar to one about Rob Reiner, is it is so indefensible.

So what you end up with is a lot of anger and outrage at Trump's direction and all these people deflecting.

But I saw like Brit Hume said something, which was like, this is what makes people not just oppose Trump, but hate Trump.

And I think that's true.

But even that is kind of like, this is bad strategy.

This is bad politics.

And it's actually what this also does is prove all the people that oppose him and hate him that they're right.

And that really you've done something terrible by embracing someone so obviously morally unfit.

So broken in his soul.

I've forgotten about the Rob Reiner thing.

Jesus, there's so many examples like this.

Can't separate it.

How many of you have quoted Margaret Thatcher saying character is destiny?

I stupidly internalize that.

I've come to believe that there's truth in that, that character is destiny, that over time your character reveals something important about you and becomes what your life amounts to.

I actually stupidly thought you agreed.

This is what you want to talk about with everything else that's going on.