Jonah Goodhart

We didn't know that though.

We didn't know that 2000 and 2001 were about to change the world.

We didn't know that the bubble, quote unquote, was gonna burst.

we didn't know that the companies that were spending money with us were going to go away we didn't know that the economy was going to change obviously we didn't know what was going to happen on the 11 and the rest of what happened and so i think my sort of takeaway from that was wow we had this crazy situation which we could have looked at and said hey we should have kept running this company colonized my first company forever but we made a decision at the time not to sell and i looked back on that and felt wow

In hindsight, of course, it's 2020, but that looked pretty silly.

Had we sold, the only thing we would have done is maybe left some upside on the table.

That's pretty good.

Life is too short to worry about that sort of thing.

I feel like in the end of the day.

So Oracle doesn't announce what the prices are that they do deals at for private companies.

So there's been some reports of what the range was, but Oracle doesn't.

to talk about the numbers specifically.

I mean, unfortunately, Oracle doesn't talk about pricing, but it was reported by a couple of different outlets in a couple of different ranges.

But yeah, unfortunately, I work now at a public company and have rules that I have to live by there.

Absolutely.

I mean, I think our team and employees and investors, I think everybody felt very good by what this deal ended up being, but also not just because of the money.

The money, of course, is great, and that's huge, and everyone's happy about that, but by the company that we were going to get a chance to partner with.

Oracle is a storied company that's been around 40 years, literally 40 years, and

We talk about Silicon Valley and we're sort of blasé about it, I think, sometimes.

Oracle is one of the companies that helped sort of create Silicon Valley, that helped create what I think we're all sort of leveraging these days in terms of software and business models and figuring out how to scale companies.